Call Her Daddy's Backstabbing & Controversy. Why Fans Are Furious & This Will Keep Happening (BONUS)

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  • Philip DeFranco

    Philip DeFranco

    11 dögum síðan

    Your parents called you a happy accident too?!

    • John Paton

      John Paton

      2 dögum síðan

      @Philip DeFranco He talked about how much money the Talent was making but not how much money they make off the talent. There is major inequality in every industry between those who do the work and those who invest the capital. Finances in this dynamic are often a one-way mirror where the owners know how much they make and how much their talent makes, but the talent does not know how much money is being made off of them. You see this playing out in Major League baseball. Where is the transparency? I believe this lack of transparency has helped birth the gross inequality in the world, especially in the U.S.A. I would hope you could mention transparency in future similar topics. Sorry for the essay Phil.

    • David Min

      David Min

      4 dögum síðan

      Dave Portnoy is a smart and successful businessman. He took a risk taking on Call Her Daddy but it was a calculated risk and he was correct in his assessment of what could happen with the show. The problem is that the girls accepted the contract that signed over the IP during the length of the contract and that there were no clauses included that would include renegotiations should the show become overwhelmingly successful. TL;DR - the girls were ill-advised signing the initial contract and are now in serious legal trouble with Barstool Sports. I would sincerely doubt that Portnoy's legal team would have written the initial contract with any "easy outs" for CHD's legal team to wriggle out from underneath. Oh and Philip, I think that you are seeing things through the lens of your own experience as a content creator and having been through a similar battle. However, just because you may be correct in your assessment of the creators being able to become independent successfully due to their popularity does not somehow invalidate a contract.

    • Haydn Waterman

      Haydn Waterman

      4 dögum síðan

      My mother was 40 when my brother was born and 43 when I was born, what do you THINK?

    • purelitenite

      purelitenite

      5 dögum síðan

      no, just an accident

    • CH1M4R4

      CH1M4R4

      5 dögum síðan

      Nah I was supposedly the accident that ruined my mothers life

  • AmyLameyBobamey

    AmyLameyBobamey

    5 klukkustundum síðan

    Seeing the hashtag callherdaddy on men's tinder profiles has always been a massive red flag. We're better off without their trash podcast

  • Korenski23

    Korenski23

    11 klukkustundum síðan

    Wow never heard of such a petty money grabbing move as that of those “Call her Daddy” women. Did you ever think of the repercussions of your actions? If people can just leave their contracts and demand ridiculous amounts of money at anytime then companies are NOT going to want to take the risks involved to make people’s shows like this big anymore. This is not good for any creator. Now if you want to move on and continue the show yourself after the contract is up so you can make more money then that’s fine! But don’t try to wormtail your way out of a contract because you had more success than you thought you would have! If the company is treating you right and no one knew the show would make this much money then deal with it and stay until your contract is up! Or negotiate peacefully. But this kind of behavior screws over everyone in the industry.

  • micheal evans

    micheal evans

    12 klukkustundum síðan

    only in america, never heard of these two plastic tarts

  • Dr Thuganomics

    Dr Thuganomics

    14 klukkustundum síðan

    They were greedy and Zofia got fucked at the end . Yes Phillip talent is over the evil corporations but at the end of the day people need money and they need corporations money and suport to sell their art/content. How many podcasts end after a few months because they aren't making money and they need to find other jobs? Call her daddy goy the perks of being signed "being legit" and then when they got big they decided to want to jump off the boat while they were still in a small contract.

  • Dr Thuganomics

    Dr Thuganomics

    14 klukkustundum síðan

    500 k a year + download bonus . Nickles and dimes !!Really Phillip! People no longer respect contract these days. I don't who who the fuck the dude is but a 3 year contract is NOTHING they cut it for just one year and get the name rights. They were greedy let's be honest

  • M E

    M E

    16 klukkustundum síðan

    What’s the IP.

  • John Kersch

    John Kersch

    22 klukkustundum síðan

    Sophia is a moron.

  • Northern Populist

    Northern Populist

    Degi Síðan síðan

    I had never heard of the show but as Alex said rarely to those who enter into these contracts get to leave with the IP. So the other chick was foolish for not taking the deal.

  • Daniel Horn

    Daniel Horn

    Degi Síðan síðan

    His hand motions.....they sicken me....

  • squidracerX

    squidracerX

    Degi Síðan síðan

    Those girls seem oblivious, but they want more, i mean Simpsons voice actors did this. I cant blame them. but yeah, very unprofessional probably stoked by the boyfriend.
    I have NEVER seen the barstool guy in a positive light, he is a huge ass. They seem like a terrible employer/company/people in general.

    • squidracerX

      squidracerX

      Degi Síðan síðan

      That being said - they should have just toughed it out for 2 years, i don't know who they are, take what you had you were lucky.

  • Badge Badge

    Badge Badge

    Degi Síðan síðan

    Maury Povich is here with the test results.. he is,,,,,,,,,, not the father!

  • Elodia Ravenwood

    Elodia Ravenwood

    2 dögum síðan

    This is too much he said they said for me to have much of an opinion. I do think its unfortunate that their partnership is falling apart just as their show is taking off. Equal pay is the only way to go for situations like this, otherwise it causes too much friction and can essentially destroy the chemistry that made the show work.

  • Novicerate . . .

    Novicerate . . .

    2 dögum síðan

    Why does the CallHerDaddy story remind me of the movie, Burn After Reading?

  • JohnnyBlackRants

    JohnnyBlackRants

    2 dögum síðan

    I think Alex did a good job defender her position. Go look up her explanation of everything. Alex and Portnoy were in the right. Sofia messes up.

  • Andrew K

    Andrew K

    2 dögum síðan

    Greedy thots

  • Rayhaan Williams

    Rayhaan Williams

    2 dögum síðan

    Hearing phil say call her daddy for 12 minutes only reason why I watched it full

  • Chase Attwood

    Chase Attwood

    2 dögum síðan

    When you sign a contract, you agree to the terms of the deal... Its as simple as that. In the beginning no one knew how successful it would become. So, as the hosts you suck it up and take what was given to you. Then you renegotiate when the opportunity comes. Everyone knows this. Pride comes before the fall....

  • Mousegiddins

    Mousegiddins

    2 dögum síðan

    I know their creators and they're important but it's a contract. You can't just get up and leave. In no other business is this considered ok.

  • Matty Auld

    Matty Auld

    2 dögum síðan

    to everyone commenting about Call Her Daddy- go to their channel and watch Alex's video on the situation.

  • J Hitchcock

    J Hitchcock

    3 dögum síðan

    I had never heard of any of these people before this podcast.

  • elmt23

    elmt23

    3 dögum síðan

    What I see is society coming together and speeding its way to idiocracy....Wtf

  • Murdock723

    Murdock723

    3 dögum síðan

    So I only know about this from this video. But you're saying they were nobodies. Signed a 3 year contract to create this for Barstool. It ended up actually being successful.
    So they get greedy and want more money. And maybe the more money is Justified.
    But you're under a limited three-year contract. And at the end of three years you get to walk away with the IP.
    Just run that short clock out and then leave with your IP.
    Like that's the best deal possible. You get to walk away with the IP. And continue making it on your own.
    They could have done this on their own in their house from the start. But they chose to sign a contract with Barstool.
    I don't see how they'd honestly defend themselves in a lawsuit.

  • Emelie Nichols

    Emelie Nichols

    3 dögum síðan

    Got my Fiancé this wallet for his birthday and its the coolest wallet ever!

  • Runzi333

    Runzi333

    3 dögum síðan

    I don't trust barstool at all. I don't think the two were good people either but also I will never trust barstool or other publisher types after how badly they screwed so many creators. I don't think it's fair for the barstool guy to say they are unprofessional while swearing and character attacking everyone else is a bunch of bull. If you make a lot of money but you actually make the company that owns everything four or five times as much. It's still them taking from you when you are doing the work. The two are getting shit for feeling like their work is being taken and they are not being paid correctly for the money they bring in. He literally is being seen as more professional and loyal and nice when the other two are being reamed for looking around and feeling that they are being taken advantage of. A man can call everyone awful names and the women are still the problems for simply deciding they are being taken for a damn ride and making a stand with lawyers and contract negotiations. This sucks and barstool sucks. Don't sell your IP to companies people.

  • PaulM68322

    PaulM68322

    3 dögum síðan

    Taking notes from the U.S women's football team and hijacking the women's movement, give an inch and they take a mile

  • Jessica Gomez

    Jessica Gomez

    3 dögum síðan

    Alex went behind Sophia’s back? Alex got a raise for doing more work... why does Sofia deserve more for doing less?

  • gerald mackay

    gerald mackay

    3 dögum síðan

    who are these twats? oh yeah i don't care

  • J Colin

    J Colin

    4 dögum síðan

    You get 500k each guaranteed (not including massive commission) AND the IP after a year...... turning that down is beyond ridiculous.

  • SidV101

    SidV101

    4 dögum síðan

    “People who left Buzzfeed have become tremendously successful” *shows Allison Raskin & Gabby Dunn* ❤️🙌 they’re just the best

  • Lindsey Botelho

    Lindsey Botelho

    4 dögum síðan

    Call Her Daddy is trash anyway. It's a dumbed down rip off of Guys We F*@ked

  • WillToNihilsm

    WillToNihilsm

    4 dögum síðan

    Lol we all know these call her daddy girls are scum bags! They're gonna lose all their money in court! Can't wait. Gonna be some rich lawyers.

  • A Redhead Rants

    A Redhead Rants

    4 dögum síðan

    These chicks sound like greedy stuck up brats. Tbh everyone I know that listens to their podcasts has a very questionable character

  • Michael Kerns

    Michael Kerns

    4 dögum síðan

    Then these creators should have bet on themselves from the beginning. Don't sign on the dotted line and then cry that you made the wrong choice.

  • David Min

    David Min

    4 dögum síðan

    This whole fiasco is just gold. Thank you, thank you, thank you. I've been bored with YouTube lately and then I come across this... In the words of Maximus Decimus Meridius, "ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?!"

  • Kam Dhatt

    Kam Dhatt

    4 dögum síðan

    It’s not even a good podcast smh lol

  • SuperGinger

    SuperGinger

    4 dögum síðan

    Alex from Call Her Daddy made a video about this whole situation, I encourage people to go watch it...it explains a lot.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgYqqSzkvgc&t=346s

  • daryl esese

    daryl esese

    4 dögum síðan

    Alex made a vlog about this whole thing and now it’s just her! I recommend y’all watch it (if you want)

  • Erwin von sellner

    Erwin von sellner

    4 dögum síðan

    just do it for another 18 months. done

  • 945girlygirl

    945girlygirl

    4 dögum síðan

    What a mess, the girls had a salary of $75,000 a year and in the 1st year ended up making about $500,000 a piece with endorsements etc. So if they were offered $500,000 a year, imagine how much they could have made and then moved on to their next opportunity. Now, it's all over the internet and makes them look problematic. 🤷‍♀️

  • HunterDrastic

    HunterDrastic

    4 dögum síðan

    Their podcast is trash anyways. Nothing of value was lost

  • Franc Dollar

    Franc Dollar

    4 dögum síðan

    Such idiots. That podcast isn’t even funny. they just lucked out that they’re two try hard 7s that post college sports bro’s think are 10s because they talk about dirty jokes and drinking beer.

  • john kennedy

    john kennedy

    4 dögum síðan

    to add, i think the real problem is between the two children... i mean girls.... wahmen... whatever...

  • john kennedy

    john kennedy

    4 dögum síðan

    its like the chicken or the egg.... the facts are facts though.... they would have NEVER exploded like they did without barstool.... end ..... of.... discussion.......

  • Haydn Waterman

    Haydn Waterman

    4 dögum síðan

    8:55 Oh YES, the talent holds the power. Look at Top Gear post-Clarkson and the new show he and his fellow hosts move to.
    That being SAID, while I believe the talent holds the power, getting half a million dollars a year to do a podcast... that ALREADY seems like a pretty sweet deal. SURE, it COULD (and MAYBE should) probably be MORE, but here's the thing: They signed a multi-year contract for a provided service that ESSENTIALLY requires the two work together on this or completely ruin the momentum they've built up. They have been given NUMEROUS bonuses as a show of good faith, to the point they went from seventy thousand a year to half-a-million A YEAR, for a PODCAST, and on top of THAT they got advanced offers after they started showing dissatisfaction with their company/the contract they signed. NOW they're squabbling like children and going on about how they 'can't work together anymore' even though they're throwing away HALF A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR AT BARE MINIMUM, but if there's one thing I know for sure, the odds of them finding success AFTER they change the formula, going by the history books, are NOT looking good.
    If your contract is shit: learn from Elvis Presley's mistake, demand to see the books to make sure you're getting an appropriate agreed-upon cut, and if you AREN'T, then take it to another distributor and ask them for legal support. A trial-by-jury has a moral bias, appeal to the unfairness or the exploitation of the contract to the jurors, and you've got a good chance of getting out of it.
    If your contract is GOOD, like $500,000/YEAR: just smile and wave, or grab the top-boss and have a SERIOUS conversation about your gripes, like professionals do. Don't go getting pissy with the people who gave you a chance to get to where you are today, THEN start shit with them AFTER they offer to improve your lot, ESPECIALLY when you went behind THEIR backs FIRST. Terroriser doesn't poo-poo on Good Griefing like Mini Ladd poo-poo's on the VanossGaming Crew, and Jim Sterling doesn't poo-poo on Destructoid/the Escapist.
    How many metaphors do we need about burning your bridges before people get the fucking POINT, and learn the fucking LESSON?

  • Britt

    Britt

    4 dögum síðan

    I can’t stand how both of those girls always talk about how “broke” they are...500k a year isn’t broke honey

  • Ari6lle1nWonderl2nd

    Ari6lle1nWonderl2nd

    4 dögum síðan

    @Philip Defranco @PhillyD
    #Texas #food service #server #COVID #coronavirus #unemployment benefits #$600 incentive
    So for me and my wife, we gots calls in the past two saying we needed to go back to work soon or we would be officially let go and our benefits would soon be canceled. With the incentive we are making equal to or slightly more than we usually do in a given week. When I spoke to my boss he said that several of my fellow co-workers were choosing not to return because they wanted to “ride out their unemployment for a little while longer. He said “if anyone goes that route they will more than likely lose their benefits but they will be officially let go, however, that doesn’t mean that they can’t be re-hired at a later date.” I explained to him that the reason I’m worried about returning too soon because I moved back in with my parents a few months before the pandemic started and my parents are both really high risk (I.e. chronic asthma, high blood pressure, diabetes and heart disease). I also have chronic asthma.
    I am getting stir crazy and would love to return to work, however, doing so may cost more than just my own life. Before this madness I would serve about 100 customers/day Right now, I’m having to run errands and cook and clean for my parents because my dad gets winded and starts wheezing simply climbing the staircase. My boss said he understood and that I wouldn’t be let go for now.
    My unemployment runs out in July or August, so regardless, I will have to return to work by then, however, for now, with Texas having the highest number of cases and our governor ignoring the figures and re-opening everything, I’m not sure when the best time to return is going to be. Not to mention that smart, rich people who tip well aren’t really going to a sit down restaurant, so business is probably pretty slow.
    Texas’ server wage is $2.13/ hour.
    What do you think?

  • 03blaird

    03blaird

    4 dögum síðan

    Ok who are these random Becky's and why should anyone care? They look like any other generic blonde/brunette speaking a bunch of random ho-babble.

  • Gerome Manicia

    Gerome Manicia

    4 dögum síðan

    Ok Phill I'm gonna say it. I never liked when you changed the intro to Sup you Beautiful Bastards. It just doesn't sound well and half the time it seems like you're trying too hard to get it across.

  • TrGMAN14

    TrGMAN14

    5 dögum síðan

    these people are making $400k+ salaries and they are like "no, not enough"... The selfishness of people is astounding... Also why not simply ask to renegotiate the terms of the contract? Be polite, have manners, be a professional. Shockingly as a listener I side with Barstool...

  • fabi_87

    fabi_87

    5 dögum síðan

    After hearing more about it Sofia was really the dilutional and entitled child in all this she kept on sabotaging remarkably great deals because she felt like it was beneath here. While Alex was just trying to keep this crazy mess afloat and get the good first deal without everything falling apart. Sofia even complained about Alex working to hard on the editing doing basically all the work was making her look bad and that she should be quite about it. So now it seems Alex had enough with Sofia and just took the original deal. Good riddance Sofia seems like a real shitty person.

  • Rob G

    Rob G

    5 dögum síðan

    Should have done the three years, built the product then went on their own after.

  • HappyTimeHollis

    HappyTimeHollis

    5 dögum síðan

    I think Portnoy is not someone to be trusted to tell the story. Remember his history attempting to bully employees over unionization?

  • Santiago Barela

    Santiago Barela

    5 dögum síðan

    "Itsagundam!"

  • RBGHfam

    RBGHfam

    5 dögum síðan

    I get the impression that Alex is the brains behind the show, and Sophia is the hotter one thats never heard the word NO, got a rich boyfriend who f*d up the deal and got greedy, now she will be relegated to someone's trophy piece, or just another e-girl.

  • Jack Of Astora

    Jack Of Astora

    5 dögum síðan

    Man the sponser here is ironic

  • Jake Siu

    Jake Siu

    5 dögum síðan

    Lesson learned: Don’t get too greedy and play for the long run.

  • Tyrannosavage Rekt

    Tyrannosavage Rekt

    5 dögum síðan

    I think the blame here can be spread a bit. It isn't entirely the fault of the girls. Barstool, like many larger companies, exploited the naivety (and likely age) of these content creators to negotiate a contract that by the sounds of it was actually pretty awful (only 7% of merchandising sales? Jesus), however, Alex & Sophia have handled the situation terribly. Their immaturity is shining through, and it's wholly unprofessional. They want to hope the deal they have tabled with another company actually works out for them, because otherwise a lot of people are going to be reluctant to work with them after this. If Barstool really made that $500k offer to them, including ownership of the IP, etc. then they were fools not to take it. More so, it seems like the personal & professional relationship between the two girls has also been irrevocably damaged.

  • pi-rate-rate-io

    pi-rate-rate-io

    5 dögum síðan

    PHIL SAY ITSAGUNDAM

  • Navroze Panthaky

    Navroze Panthaky

    5 dögum síðan

    No. My Mom said she wished she never had me.

  • TheMaverickSpawn

    TheMaverickSpawn

    5 dögum síðan

    The thing with small creators that make it big quick is usually because of deals given to them by companies that know their potential but still want to get most of the profits because it may be a big loss if you don’t make it. Then once they’re big, the creators, they feel like it’s not fair although they couldn’t make it big without the company.

  • Des Sanchez

    Des Sanchez

    6 dögum síðan

    As a loyal Daddy Gang member, I and many other fans I’ve seen on the subreddit are of the opinion that Sofia ruined CHD for both of them and their demands were ridiculous from the start. Everyone’s like yeah ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ their own fault but we still Stan Alex💖

  • Toph

    Toph

    6 dögum síðan

    Deal with Thots, deal with thot problems.

  • Neil.is.FAMOUS

    Neil.is.FAMOUS

    6 dögum síðan

    Never sell your soul to someone else period.

  • mark hernandez

    mark hernandez

    6 dögum síðan

    Honor your contracts. Barstool sports needs to keep the IP to screw them for being greedy. This has Suitman written all over it.

  • Madelyn Morgan

    Madelyn Morgan

    6 dögum síðan

    does this mean my friends will finally stop telling me to listen to this

  • RykenPrime

    RykenPrime

    6 dögum síðan

    I'm just glad this is because of contract and money shit, and not cause they said something stupid on their podcast.

  • Roberto Blake

    Roberto Blake

    6 dögum síðan

    The problem with what Barstool sports did is that I can’t see any upcoming Creator signing with them, knowing that if it goes sideways they would do something like post directly on your feed to their audience and also give you a gag order where you can’t even defend yourselves.,.
    To your point Phil the loyalty of the audience isn’t to the company..:
    And the outdated view that these creators are just employees and have no rights to the IP is absurd. Create a situation where everyone wins, but if people want to walk away... let them, don’t hold them hostage. Don’t sabotage them.
    If a client of mine ever says they want to sign with Barstool, I will tell them to look elsewhere.
    That said the girls could’ve been more professional... but barstool knew they were signing 20 something year olds and should have considered their inexperience in the equation.

  • Minimojojoy

    Minimojojoy

    6 dögum síðan

    Like most people here, I don’t know who “Call my Daddy” is, nor to I care to now, that’s for sure! How to kill your career before it evens starts! Well done ladies! 👏😂

  • Our lady of perpetual indigestion

    Our lady of perpetual indigestion

    6 dögum síðan

    Alex has since come out with her side and she did a wonderful job of providing context and perspective. Sophia really screwed them over

  • Sarah Koerner

    Sarah Koerner

    6 dögum síðan

    Dang what a mess...

  • Purple Sky

    Purple Sky

    6 dögum síðan

    Pretty ironic he’s sponsored by ridge. Hm

  • Jimmy Carter

    Jimmy Carter

    6 dögum síðan

    Who the hell would want to listen to these two chicks anyway?

  • Drowsy Waters

    Drowsy Waters

    6 dögum síðan

    Can't take your hands talking faster than you.

  • Stephanie

    Stephanie

    6 dögum síðan

    the fact they turned down the ability to own their IP after a year is a legendary fumble

  • wastagwaga

    wastagwaga

    6 dögum síðan

    I thought the guy in the thumbnail was the "family of five" guy

  • Zach M

    Zach M

    6 dögum síðan

    I mean, I don't know if there were negotiations leading up to the early contract cut and IP rights, but at that point, don't let your pride get in the way.
    To speak to the risk / reward... ever watch shark tank / dragon's den? They invested in the creator, the creator was successful, the investor made their money back times over like a royalty deal then the creator got to walk off with 100% equity... not a bad deal. Hard to plan ahead I guess
    That being said, I will say some deals are outrageous and abusive towards the creator and I don't care for the "that's show biz" argument, because it's predicated on making the 1% richer for what is (usually) to them nothing. The creator takes all of the criticism, does all the work, they just provide a platform...
    .... here it seemed like a fair deal tho; they give the creator an opportunity to blow up then walk or renegotiate after 3 years.

  • Susana Avalos

    Susana Avalos

    6 dögum síðan

    I think the fallacy is that influencers think they can be entrepreneurs, not everyone can be entrepreneurs an business people. Yes, they have talent and charisma, but in most cases that does not translate into business savviness.

  • Raising Agent

    Raising Agent

    6 dögum síðan

    George Floyd

  • renoloverxoxo

    renoloverxoxo

    6 dögum síðan

    Perfect are acting like this is Ray William Johnson versus Maker Studios all over again. I would have taken the offer, since it gives their IP back after a year.